IIT Kanpur Year 2010
Record of Correspondence - 2
October 1, 2010 Dear 76ers, I am writing to request a huge favor. For the IITK History Project, Professor V.K. Stokes has asked me to dig up stories, anecdotes and quotes about and by Dr. Muthana. I remember Sandip Tiwari and Suresh Lodha had written short e-mails about him to the 76ers when he passed away. I have reproduced below the e-mail exchange from the 76ers listserv about Dr. Muthana from April 2001. Could those of you who knew Dr. Muthana or had interacted with him write a little bit about him for the IITK History Project? Any information, no matter how big or small, would be a great help for the IITK History Project. Would it be possible for you to send me something by October 15? Thank you. -Rajendra Bhattarai
October 3, 2010 Dear AK,Suda,
October 4, 2010 One last message for the morning.
October 4, 2010 Dear Anu,
October 7, 2010 Have you received the photos etc I gave of Pioneer Batch to Sonaly and article from me and Prakash Khemani and AK Nigam? Let me know if you need any thing from the first batch. Abhay
Ocotober 7, 2010 Dear Abhay,
October 7, 2010 Here is from Khemani, first president of IITKAA! Abhay ***
October 7, 2010 Dear Mr. Arun Kumar, You will find some useful information on the site pkkelkar.info as I just put it there. This is work in progress and it is going to be updated often with more photographs and Dr. P.K. Kelkar's papers and other writing. I will forward your email to Kavery Muthana and she can give some more information about her father. With all best wishes,
October 7, 2010 Dear Madhura,
October 7, 2010 Gentlemen,
October 7, 2010 Hi Arun, Great to see you bite the bullet and start on the essays. Perhaps you can change the font on quotes - smaller and indented. Are you planning to use Anu's and Abha's material as well? It may be a more positive perspective from their viewpoint on sciences and humanities, rather than engineering. I believe there is also a Design school now, where many women are enrolling. Dont know when that was started. Cheers, ==suda
October 8, 2010 Dear Arun, Raj, Vijay, I have been discussing with Arun the best approach for the Student Chapter. To provide a concrete example of the alternative that I think might work best for flow, blending in with the other chapters, showing a chronology for continuity and consistence, etc, I am attaching a file that incorporates Arun's file somewhat reorganized, and including Roli's and Anuradha's contributions. I haven't seen Abha's and Sangeeta's contributions yet but they can be readily excerpted into this format when they come in. Please add in commentary and further excerpts from the original contributions as you see fit. I am working to develop the Governance section along these lines as well. At present that section has contributions from the archives Vijay had sent, and I am expecting contributions from Anupam and Ricky. What do you think of this format? Let me know if you think the sections on universal values in undergraduate education works. We need some targets and constraints on number of words (about 10,000 - 15,000?). How many words per major section - I assume we want to keep it balanced. Also, should we seek five substantial contributors/sources (excluding ourselves) on each section before we say we have ample material? We can put the entire contributions, for access to material we do no excerpt, archives, etc in the Archives of the History of IITK Project that Vijay is starting. I hope Vijay is able to access these mails, and give us some advice on these issues. ==Suda
October 8, 2010 Dear Arun and Suda, Sorry, I was out for a week at a water environment conference. Attached is a short piece from Roli for exTEMPOre 35. We can also use it for the IITK History Project. We need higher resolution scans of the black and white pictures, should we decide to use them. -Raj
October 8, 2010 Dear Jhun,
October 9, 2010 Raj, This is nice! Roli seems somewhat inspired to downplay the sad side of the womens expeience, and play up the good side.You should use that pic for exTEMPOre 35 with Sandy & Roli at the GH, and I still have to send you a couple of scans for the Human Writes article. Cheers, ==suda
October 11, 2010 Forwarding a wonderful message from Roli Garg Wendorf who received her B.Tech. in electrical engineering from IITK in 1976. -Raj I had the opportunity to interact with Dr. Muthana several times and always found him very reasonable and caring. The incident that stands out in my mind is at the interview right after we were admitted. I had interviewed at Kanpur, and my father had come along with me. My father waited outside while I finished my interview. After my interview was over, Dr Muthana excused himself from the panel and came outside. He took my father and me to his office and talked to us about our issues and concerns. I asked him if there were other girls in the class, and at that time, the answer seemed to be "no". My father also expressed concern about how I would manage in an all-male environment. Dr. Muthana was very reassuring. I don't remember the details of what he said, but he topped it with "...what of that...Indira Gandhi is the only woman too". His taking the time then was very helpful to us, especially to my father. I remember my father quoting that line about Indira Gandhi many times. Dr Muthana understood what a big step my father and I were taking in my coming to IIT. I stopped by his office several times during my stay at IIT to let him know how I was doing, and he took the time to talk to me in spite of the
many demands on his time.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Sudhi Seshadri wrote: Dear Chief, May I request you once again for some of your recollections on the roots you can trace to IITK of your interests in technology, science education for the poor, and other involvements? Also, can you review this mail below and help with any source material. Hope all is well with you and the family. I was intersested to see you are with the University now. Look forward to hearing. WIth warm regards,
Thanks for this, Chief. I will give Arun and Raj the heads up on this as well. Could you drop a note to Sudha to encourage her to write, as my own email to her must sound like it comes out of the blue. warm regards, ==suda
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:59 PM, arvind gupta wrote: Dear Suda, Your reminder has clinched the issue. I will write - I must write before memory fails me. Shall send you an article by this Sunday. I am only capable of writing a personalized account and shall leave to you and Arun to edit it. Sudha I have known well. She is Prof Krishna Bharadwaj's daughter - did MSc Maths from IIT /K. Was married to Dr. Abhay Shukla - Dr. A. P. Shukla's son. She visited me when I worked with the Chattisgarh Mines Shramik Sangh 1981-83. I have never worked with Sudha but the brief note she has written is quite true. She got separated from Abhay long back. Abhay is settled in Pune and we meet once in a while - in a morcha or dharna. Dr. A. P. Shukla has visited me twice in Pune. In India many centuries live cheek-to-jowl, the most primitive and the ultra-modern co-exist side-by-side. It has been 7 years since I have worked in a Children's Science Centre incubated by Prof. Jayant Narlikar - founder of the Inter-University Centre for Astronomy & Astrophysics and located in the Pune University Campus. Thanks for your timely reminder. I shall send you a write-up soon. love and peace
October 12, 2010 Thanks for this, Chief. I will give Arun and Raj the heads up on this as well. Could you drop a note to Sudha to encourage her to write, as my own email to her must sound like it comes out of the blue. warm regards, ==suda
October 12, 2010
October 13, 2010 Dear Arun, Better late than never! I apologize for the delay in sending this to you. Attached is a very quick and dirty, low resolution scan of exTEMPOre, the IITK 76ers Memorabilia, edited by none other than our own Suda. I will try to do a better scan later. This is done for the text and not for the pictures which wouldn’t be very good in a scan like this anyway. Feel free to use whatever you think is appropriate for the history project. Much of the stuff here is “Boys will be boys” kind, but there are some gems such as the one from Roli Garg Wendorf. Suda did a super job of pulling it together. It was this book that so impressed Vijay Stokes that he recruited Suda for the Student Chapter job. Stokes said he wanted to include Tridib Sen’s poem “A Hunting Tale” (pp 28-29) in the history project. The entire book is printed with sepia ink. It’s handsome, hardcover book that Suda should be very proud of. I am learning editing is not a trivial task. Happy reading! Talk with you soon. Warm regards,
October 14, 2010 Dear Suda, Today I went through the entire correspondence on Arun's website on the IIT/K history project with different people. It was very interesting. Couple of people who did wonderful things seem eclipsed. I stand corrected - but while there is lots on Muthana there is no mention of CVS - Prof C. V. Seshadri. The best note I found on CVS is by Shiv Vishwanathan - India's best Sociologist (article - Carnival of Science). Shiv incidentally was Ricky Suri's classmate in Jamshedpur. Ricky did a wonderful thing - he spent almost a year reorganising the Spastic Society of North India in Delhi. I was associated with the Spastic Society for 8 years during which I met Ricky. You'll find Carnival of Science on my website. Ashok Jhunjhunwala should also be contacted. He has done a lot of work to make us all proud. I will be spending two days with Balu next week in Hyderabad at the Third World Academy of Sciences Conference. Shall also meet CNR Rao. love and peace Also Prof H. N. Mahabala - one of the most interesting teacher's.
October 14, 2010 Dear All, Allow me to bring your attention to Arvind Gupta's email. We are awaiting contributions from Ricky Surie and Ashok Jhunjhunwala for the Student History. Dr Balu had contributed on the music circle and Le Montage. The chapters on faculty themselves are beyond the scope of the Student Chapter. But I get the point that some other faculty have had significant impact whileat IITK, and later, and could be prevailed upon to contribute their memoirs to Prof Vijay Stokes. I may also be able to pass on a message to Dr Mahabala. Arun, Raj, what do you think? Arvind has sent me a wonderful contribution which I will send you. Best regards, ==Sudhi
October 14, 2010 Dear Abhay,
October 14, 2010 Arun, I am copying Prakash Khemani on this message. Here is an article on the history and activities of IITKAA. Abhay *** The IIT Kanpur Alumni Association was established in March 4, 1967 … <excised>
October 15, 2010 Dear Arun: Like Abhay, I am also from the first batch, but unlike him, I had decided to remain in India after graduating, notwithstanding the fact that almost everyone else in the batch had plans to go for higher studies (and settling down thereafter) in the US. Looking back, I have the satisfaction of having worked in one of the leading MNC’s in India with full freedom to carry out creative ideas in diverse functions and pioneering the use of Information Technology for process rationalisation from the mid-80’s. While at the IITK, I got involved in almost all activities, be it starting a reading room in the GCTI Hostel or creation of organisations like Literary Club, Film Society, Students’ Benefit Fund and , of course, the Gymkhana. In the initial years, I organised regular alumni get-togethers in Mumbai (then Bombay) in close co-ordination with alumni like Gyanesh Chaudhry (2nd Batch). In fact, Gyanesh and I worked closely even on other social fora like Junior Chamber (now called Jaycees) and came in touch with the leading lights of Bombay of those days. It was therefore natural that, when time came to formalise IITK Alumni Association, both of us took a lead, vastly supported by Dr. V Bansal and Dr. JP Gupta (both of 2nd batch) who had by then joined the faculty at IITK. You have already read my memories of the first day of IITK. I have vivid and interesting memories of many more events that took place during our 5-year stay at the institute. I will be very happy to share my reminisces of any specific areas you may have in mind about the initial five years of IITK – events like the visit to the current IITK campus in 1961 en route to Bithore when the area was literally a “green field” with crops in full glory, Mercedes (truck) rides from hostel to the HBTI campus, emphasis on Carpentry, metal workshop, Physics and Chemistry practicals in the first two years in absence of other facilities, arrival of US-returned faculty and their ways of working distinct from those borrowed from HBTI, creation of institute logo and crest, numerous study tours to all parts of the country, two group visits to Khajuraho, arrival of Prof. GD Agarwal on the IITK scene, hostel life in Gwal Toli area of Kanpur and then at Kalyanpur (then spelt Kalianpur), shifting to new campus, introduction of semester system, numerous experiments with running mess in the hostels, week-end film screenings in the quadrangle of Mechanical Workshop, functions and visits of well-known personalities, arrival of IBM 1620, the numerous pranks we played, the first convocation and many more! For the Golden Jubilee meet of the first batch (as distinct from the Class of 1965, since even those left half way for whatever reason were also invited), I had compiled an e-book containing the life profiles of 44 pioneers. However, for information security reasons, we decided to restrict the distribution of the e-book, even though it was otherwise secured – one can only see it on a display device – you can neither copy nor print it. If Abhay agrees, we can give a copy of the same only to those working on history of the IITK. It would make a good source of information as it gives the background of the pioneers before they joined IITK and also on how they have fared in the intervening period. Abhay, please let me know. Instead of attaching my photograph to this message, burdening the download load on everyone, I will send my photograph separately to you. With best regards,
October 15, 2010 Dear Arun: Here are the photographs – me in 1965 and now! Regards, Prakash
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October 27, 2010 Here are three photographs of Dr Muthana in 1964-65 attached. Samar Chatterjee
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October 28, 2010 Is that the classical singer? Meera & I were chief guests at a concert by her in Oman and have some nice photos with her, some where. Cant say I understand her kind of vocla performance; wish I had known she had been to IIT K. Could have looked less of a philistine while we had 'chai' before the concert. Cheers
October 28, 2010 For issues of Cheshire Cate, please see: http://students.iitk.ac.in/fmc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87&Itemid=73 This is on IITK website. For Mahadevan Ramesh's articles, please see: http://www.mahadevanramesh.com/Article.html. Some commentary on IITK there also. More later. It is late in India and I need to get up early to go attend the PanIIT meeting in NOIDA tomorrow morning. Best Regards,
October 28, 2010 (From Rakesh Pandey)
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October 28, 2010 (from Aseem Shukla)
October 29, 2010 Ashok K Mittal
November 1, 2010 Then one day in our third year one Ramesh Madhav Warrier (who still knew a lot of seniors who knew a lot of guys who had known C Cat) walked into our room with the scrolls. C Cat wasn’t a group of guys he said, it was just one guy… and that was why it couldn’t continue after he graduated, because no one else could write like that. He even know the name… it was Ramesh Madhavan or Mahadevan. Of course we couldn’t believe Mr. Warrier, but it does seem that he had it right. So now that a group of former Spark editors are trying to write the students’ perspective of the 50 year history of IITK, (which really cannot be complete without a write-up and a story from the C Cat) here is a missive addressed your way. The Alumni Association and the Deans sent us links to your web site and the Meander archive with IITK. It’s been a pleasure reading the old issues, and the tales of NRIs Privatizing IITK and all about the Garden of Love. But years ago I was towards the tail end of a FW: FW: e-mail which seemed to originate in the depths of the 1973-78 batch, and was called Nuclear Missile Attack, What Really Happened. I read that tale in awe and wonder… realizing that this could only be C Cat… and it was still around! I never did delete that e-mail from 1998, but then the computer crashed in 2003, and life went on. Yes, I searched for the missile story on the web sites, but did not find it there. But back to what this is all about, perhaps C Cat will be willing to embellish the IITK history with its perspective on an IITK education. A short write-up what it was all about and a tale of the cat that got a good rat. Thanks!
November 3, 2010 The attachment Ramesh sent with this message is located at http://kahany.com/IITK/cheshireCat.html
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